Overclocked (22059) - building-design

Here is a video showing a bunch of different robots built for this years challenge. Lots of ideas here with design critiques as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVhmXYCe_Ow

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Here is a video of a scrimmage with four different types of arms for ideas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y3yUKzGzSw

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Linear slide design: https://cdn.thingiverse.com/assets/a9/43/35/05/80/large_display_Linear_Slide.jpg

We got the arm to work!

Picture?

cool

Link to aluminum extrusion used for arm https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XHQ1479?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

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@Alex it is mounted

Yay

Got a nice little bracket here

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Word on the street is that chain tension is an issue. I have used adjustable belt tensioners on a couple of projects, so we may want to consider something similar for the chains? https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3182477

Tetrix Chain Tensioner (lead screw method) by AudreyTheAwesome

I designed this chain tensioner for use with FTC Tetrix beams. There usually isn't an easy way to tension chains being used with Tetrix beams, because they use different units (metric versus imperial). This lead-screw method tensioner can be attached to the end of a Tetrix beam and can extend the beam to the desired length to tension your chain,...

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Here is a video showing some of the grabbers/claws that are on Thingiverse. Although the sizing/design on some would need to be adjusted they may give you some more ideas. I can print some samples for Saturday, any preferences in the list? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU2rSG2Orwg

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Weird claw prototype 2 of 3

beefy hand!

Looks beefy

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Cow catcha

peteypoo

Cow catcha

That works great!

@Jeff I sent you some files. Can you print them?

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peteypoo

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That's amazing!!!!!

Woop! I’m gonna try to drop it off today so perhaps it can get attached and used

Things that need fixing: strings getting caught and not letting arm go all the way down Cow catcher not working properly Fixing up some wire management

seth

Things that need fixing: strings getting caught and not letting arm go all the way down Cow catcher not working properly Fixing up some wire management

How is the cow catcher not working?

Alex

How is the cow catcher not working?

I wasn't able to get a very good look at it, I think either Jeff or max would know

@Jeff @Max Do you know what the issue is? I want to know so I can think of mitigations

The 3d printed bits had broken

11:21 AM

@Alex

Which parts? How did they break? What were you doing when you broke them? I want to fix them before the scrimmage. (edited)

6:17 PM

@Max

I don’t know sorry

Cow catcher had the attachments broke. Still can function without issue but need to back up a bit after it guides it into place.

Like the holes for the bolts broke again?

You didn’t use the new pieces you printed

Just realized the parts you had me print were also spares for the cow catcher. I thought those were for the grabber.

They aren’t spares

7:49 PM

They are a new iteration

Now that I know what they are we can try to mount them in the morning

They should be better at falling back down

Can you five me an idea of which ones go where

They slope inwards

7:51 PM

 
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The right_spacer.stl is three segments, does this go on the right from the back or front? Also the left_spacer.stl is only two segments, is that supposed to be two?

I don't know what you mean by segments

8:30 PM

here is the cad file

8:31 PM

take a look at the picture of the prints I made. The one on the right middle looks like the older design.

you're right

8:33 PM

fusion 360 sometimes just doesn't save when you say save file

8:34 PM

would you like to print the new file or should I?

send it and I can see if I can print and mount it

Here are the others mounted (with lock washers). Does that look right

8:44 PM

yup

Sleeve design

The one on the right looks like a dog. The middle one is an elephant. The left one is a person sitting and playing with Tetris pieces. This is a Rorschach test right?

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No I think it was an “oops we put Aquabots’ team number on the signal sleeve” test

Team scoring design thingy

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Team scoring design thingy 2: The Long Awaited Sequel

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Team Scoring design Thingy Episode 3: The Moment we've all been waiting for. I added the Flag to the top because it wasnt tall enough without it and i wasnt sure what else to put

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First print in pink. Let me know before school if you think there should be any changes. Will print starting at 9:00 in blue and red since they will take a bit to print them.

Are we sure the flag fits in the footprint of the cone?

The first two pics show it is on the cone and won't slip off the bottom but I am not sure what you mean by footprint.

I think the question is does the flag get stuck on the cow catcher or the arm as the cone is lifted

8:04 AM

Looks nice!

peteypoo

I think the question is does the flag get stuck on the cow catcher or the arm as the cone is lifted

Good question. I will try it manually now

8:08 AM

It does not get stuck on the cow catcher and it short enough to be under the arm. I was able to lift it manually without a problem. No guarantee but looks good.

Coool. I can print one if that’s make things easier

8:09 AM

I have red and blue filaments

8:09 AM

Also planning on doing the laser etchings today so they can get installed tomorrow

peteypoo

Coool. I can print one if that’s make things easier

I have both printers loaded with the filament and gcode so I should be good to go.

peteypoo

Also planning on doing the laser etchings today so they can get installed tomorrow

Nice. Get the ventilation going

It’s pretty cute as ventilation goes

peteypoo

It’s pretty cute as ventilation goes

It's like a smokestack on a ship

Nice design. Bet you wish you could open the door, not today, brrr.

After we dropped the flag on the floor, it seemed to break easily. Is there any way we can beef it up? (edited)

Zach

After we dropped the flag on the floor, it seemed to break easily. Is there any way we can beef it up? (edited)

No. We can’t beef it up, we have to beefify it.

Beffifyed the flag

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Looks beefified! Can you verify it fits in the 4x4 cube?

I found how we get the software I think https://www.autodesk.com/education/competitions/first

Alex

I found how we get the software I think https://www.autodesk.com/education/competitions/first

Thanks!

If anyone makes an FTC fusion account, give me your email so I can add you to the f360 team

Alex

If anyone makes an FTC fusion account, give me your email so I can add you to the f360 team

I haven’t made one yet, I’ll do it now

ok

Ah

3:58 PM

I need my computer, which is not it New Hampshire

3:58 PM

I’ll do it on Sunday

I was planning on having eveyone do it post season

3:59 PM

It isn't super important yet

Why not just the building people?

It is a good idea for everyone to be able to view and look at our designs

Alex

It is a good idea for everyone to be able to view and look at our designs

Yeah

@Alex Do you have any good tutorials on learning fusion?

I was planning on teaching everyone at our meetings

ok.

5:15 PM

over off-season?

yeah in two weeks when we meet again

ok

@Alex Can you add me to the team

5:33 PM

email's isaiah.day@stu.northampton-k12.us

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Just a reminder that Game Manual 0 (https://gm0.org/en/latest/) is a good resource of ideas as you all are thinking of how to build something to accomplish the challenge for this season. (edited)

Index

Start Here Are you a rookie team? Are you new to FTC? Are you just looking for a refresher? Check out this section for a curated list of the most pertinent pages! Being a Team Covers how to start, ...

Another good resource is YouTube videos of past seasons. If you are interested, First has all the past season manuals at https://www.firstinspires.org/resource-library/ftc/archived-game-documentation. Some past seasons that had interesting things are:

2015-16 FIRST® RES-QSM: Robot on a pull up bar
2018-19 Rover Ruckus: End game had hanging task
2019-20 Skystone: Had height limited separation in the middle of the field. Also needed the ability to stack elements at an extended height

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Resource Library

FIRST is a global robotics community preparing young people for the future and the world’s leading youth-serving nonprofit advancing STEM education.

There is also the "Robot in three Days" (Ri3D) builds that happen where people will put together a robot in three days for the competition. Some examples this year are:

GoBilda: Streaming Sun, Mon & Tuesday (4-9PM) at https://www.gobilda.com/gobildatv/
University of Florida: Sunday@noon, Monday@3PM &Tuesday@3PM at https://www.twitch.tv/uf_ri3d

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Here is a Google Doc that I made to try to list all of the different robot components we talked about. Feel free to add option or pros/cons to assemblies. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vWK35ZF2wJRs1hLR-9f-6dGekC_0FzZh9KYnCrN5Isc/edit?usp=sharing

Design Ideas Document

I wanted to get a better handle on our design ideas so far and make them a little more systematized. I hope this will help us make decisions, since we need to do that quickly, so we can actually start with the prototyping and building. We don’t have to get our designs perfect the first time aroun...

Alex

Here is a Google Doc that I made to try to list all of the different robot components we talked about. Feel free to add option or pros/cons to assemblies. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vWK35ZF2wJRs1hLR-9f-6dGekC_0FzZh9KYnCrN5Isc/edit?usp=sharing

I haven't looked at this until now, I regret that I didn't, this looks amazing!

Thank you!

I think we should add wheel guards so that Pixels don't get caught under the robot

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I added that; thank you!

2:05 PM

If you haven't looked at the doc alex posted, please do. It'll give us a common vocabulary we can use to make some decisions.

I looked at it yesterday and the day before

, and it looked amazing, I also suggested we added guards to the wheels so that pixels don't get caught on it=

Here is a link to some notes I typed up during our meeting this morning. If I forgot anything important, please don't hesitate to add it.https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xIiblBmC5DwEQLZbIg0yyN4FutqiRRfIkyWWhmjIHlw/edit?usp=sharing

Notes from 9/16/23 meeting

Notes from 9/16/23 meeting The plan for Monday is for people to work on prototypes of the mechanisms that are highlighted in green on the design ideas document. Prototypes can be LEGO, cardboard, drawings, animations, CAD, or whatever. Some conclusions we came to were that Two arms, one with an...

@everyone I've been looking at how to do NeoPixels for our robot, and it seems like the easiest method is to use a driver (controlling them directly requires 150ns precision). REV makes a Blinkin, but it's really expensive. Adafruit has a (vaguely) similar driver for $7.50 that can control NeoPixels via I2C. Would anyone else be interested in building and debugging NeoPixels? I'm thinking it might be good to get a subsystem working now, since I don't think it will take too long, and we will be able to test it's effect on the robot battery.

yes, i think it will be good for pixel color indicators

Fusion 360! https://www.autodesk.com/education/competitions/first

https://www.autodesk.com/education/edu-software/overview

Click on Fusion 360. You'll need to fill out some information. You all are students for the purposes of this form

5:56 PM

It might not work well in Firefox. I had to use Chrome

zev.lopezkeller@stu.northampton-k12.us

@Zev @Max @Zach @Isaiah It would be ideal if you have an idea of how you want your part of the robot to operate. You can use https://www.tinkercad.com/ to brainstorm things in 3 dimensions, and you can sign up with your autodesk account.

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Alex

@Zev @Max @Zach @Isaiah It would be ideal if you have an idea of how you want your part of the robot to operate. You can use https://www.tinkercad.com/ to brainstorm things in 3 dimensions, and you can sign up with your autodesk account.

Is there an advantage for his over fusion if we have fusion?

It is easier to brainstorm and figure out where components will go because you don’t need sketches. However, it is harder to get precise shapes because it doesn’t use sketches

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It has a less steep learning curve and is more intuitive than “real” CAD software. If I’m designing something simple and quick, TinkerCAD is pretty good.

@Isaiah When you are designing the depositor, there is a bracket piece in Robot Parts>Motors. You should design the depositor to have that bolted on so that we can switch the motor more easily. (You can measure the holes to make it fit) (edited)

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this?

8:06 PM

or this?

8:06 PM

it's the secound one, right?

The first one is for DC motors, the second one is for servos

And I will use a servo.

8:08 PM

So the secound one?

Yea

ok

39089 TMX Motor Mount, 1 Compliant whee:l Nub; 50A, d-shaft: 60mm length min (edited)

Parts you need?

8:29 PM

I have a doc for that https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XpvtyfGxEPPVibQyD2PABsCpApo_H8dGU0S3JFm1Rj0/edit

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I would like to put together an order soon so we can get building. Knowing not everything is known yet can we get an initial list that will get us to prototyping phase. It will likely take 7-10 days to get anything we order. (edited)

Neopixel adapter pieces are here!!

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The brick racer is done!!

epic

nice

Do you guys have the CAD file for the intake?

8:16 AM

A screenshot works as well

8:16 AM

I’m just curious

It’s in fusion

Ok thanks, I’ll see if my account works

Wanted to give you an update on the parts. We will have ALL the parts we ordered delivered by Thursday night so they will be available for Saturdays class!

Woohoo!

Jeff

Wanted to give you an update on the parts. We will have ALL the parts we ordered delivered by Thursday night so they will be available for Saturdays class!

Yay!

First has posted a document giving examples of legal and illegal paper airplanes at https://www.firstinspires.org/sites/default/files/uploads/resource_library/ftc/is-your-drone-legal.pdf

I really like the concept of illegal paper airplanes

I love example IL3. Lots of design out the window with this example

I'm not sure if there is anything we can do about it, but it would be nice to have 1-2 more crossbars on the chassis

Alex

I'm not sure if there is anything we can do about it, but it would be nice to have 1-2 more crossbars on the chassis

What about using plywood like in the past? (edited)

We could do that, i suppose, I would need to design some CNC stuff though, maybe @Isaiah or @Max can do it

@True Overclocker I think we should have a dedicated way of managing a print queue. Do y’all think that we should:

WebCollab and make prints tasks with info and files attached
or should we make a simple piece of software specifically for managing prints (with versions). I might be able to make it webhook into the discord to alert people when there is stuff to be printed.

Alex

@True Overclocker I think we should have a dedicated way of managing a print queue. Do y’all think that we should:

WebCollab and make prints tasks with info and files attached
or should we make a simple piece of software specifically for managing prints (with versions). I might be able to make it webhook into the discord to alert people when there is stuff to be printed.

I think either would work, but the latter would be easier, but probably harder to setup.

Well, there’s a prototype of the latter in the works…

Team Prop files

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Done-ish with the intake

Nice!!!

Horray

It doesn't have a motor though (edited)

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Updated Team prop

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@Max There are some tasks that we assigned to you in webcollab. Let me know if you have any questions.

Hey there. Alex and I are hosting some open build time today, 5 pm onwards. It’s at my shop in Easthampton. Let me know if you’re able to come (late notice I know). I’m planning on doing this more often as we get closer to our competition dates. The address is 15 Torrey street. The shop is a little chilly

1:20 PM

Whoops hit enter too early. The shop is a little chilly so dress warmer than Zach’s basement.

peteypoo

Hey there. Alex and I are hosting some open build time today, 5 pm onwards. It’s at my shop in Easthampton. Let me know if you’re able to come (late notice I know). I’m planning on doing this more often as we get closer to our competition dates. The address is 15 Torrey street. The shop is a little chilly

How long are you planning to do it?

3:48 PM

Like what’s the end date?

Not sure honestly. Probably 9 ish? Whenever your parents want you home also works

peteypoo

Not sure honestly. Probably 9 ish? Whenever your parents want you home also works

Ok, I’ll go from 5-6:30 ish

Rad. See you then.

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Belts? Got ‘em. Do they work? Yes. Closer to functionality? Yes!

peteypoo

Belts? Got ‘em. Do they work? Yes. Closer to functionality? Yes!

Awesome!

Can you handle this?

Could we fit everything?

6:03 PM

I don't really see the point of making it thinner, it just limits building and we can already fit through the spaces

6:03 PM

We do run into the sides a lot, but practicing driving will help with that

I'm not making the chassis thinner, I added handles

6:04 PM

it was a joke (edited)

Oh i see lol

7:03 PM

Any name ideas?

I like Emily Brontë-saurus

No more chain dragging on the linear slide

Nice

WHOO

I have narrowed the servo issue down to a board (on the servo) failure.

7:59 PM

When I apply power directly to the DC motor in the servo, it spins, but when a signal is given to it, there is 0v across the motor

8:00 PM

We have purchased two new servos

Replaced the speed servos with torque servos

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Robot Camera Location Pros and Cons

Sheet1 Location,Pros,Cons H-Frame (L/R),Easiest by far,Only sees 2 H-Frame Center,Easy,Only sees 2 Arm Motor,Can see all 3, even when the intake is down,More complicated bracket

Lucas

Updated Team prop

@Jeff Here you go with the updated team prop i believe

“Folded” robot

That looks cool

Servos are here!

WooHoo

Should we bring them over?

I think these are right????

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Wide intake

7:14 AM

What does it do

It should be able to pick up pixels over a wider area. It was something we talked about at a meeting.

all printed!

This thing is huge!

woah

4:25 PM

that might be too big

4:25 PM

it could hit the sides of the chassis

peteypoo

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Awesome! Is this the secound robot?

New carriage blocks!

for reference: new lengths for linear slide pieces: 2 x 9.25" and 1 x 8.625 (8 5/8)"

@Alex @peteypoo Do you have the parts of the old intake? If so, please bring them on Monday

Which parts? We left a lot of stuff there.

Specifically the base plate, but if you have any others, please bring them as well

12:14 PM

We have the side plates here

The original, smaller base?

Yes

Ok, will do.

Also we might be missing the belts and shafts but I’m not sure

12:15 PM

Thanks

Belts are in the box with screws and other parts. Shafts are likely to be there as well.

Ok

12:16 PM

Good to know

Can you check if you have the belts too?

12:32 PM

We have the wrist belt and two belts that could be the intake belts but I’m not sure

I’m pretty sure we don’t. As far as I know, all the belts we have are in the black box at Zach’s.

Ok we have them I think

Just so I am informed on robot-related developments, why did y’all need the intake floor, shafts and belts?

@True Overclocker

Alex

@True Overclocker

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I wanted to be on top of the robot developments that happened at the last meeting

Alex

I wanted to be on top of the robot developments that happened at the last meeting

From what i remember max is improving the old robot not entirly sure what hes changing . the rest of us worked on the new robot we're replacing the pink triangles that hold the linear slide with a scaled down version. this will lower the outake so the carrige doesnt bump into the outer points of the clear plastic. Which was preventing the carrige from being able to transfer pixels. the intake is being lowered sligtly. thats all can remember (edited)

Has anyone been assigned to work on the pullup bar, or have we decided that that is not something we are interested in pursuing?

malone

From what i remember max is improving the old robot not entirly sure what hes changing . the rest of us worked on the new robot we're replacing the pink triangles that hold the linear slide with a scaled down version. this will lower the outake so the carrige doesnt bump into the outer points of the clear plastic. Which was preventing the carrige from being able to transfer pixels. the intake is being lowered sligtly. thats all can remember (edited)

The pink triangles that hold the linear slide? These things?

yes

I guess I'll just have to see the robot at the meeting, I can't figure out how scaling that down would do anything

Alex

I guess I'll just have to see the robot at the meeting, I can't figure out how scaling that down would do anything

We would change it so that the linear slide started at a lower point.

Alex

Has anyone been assigned to work on the pullup bar, or have we decided that that is not something we are interested in pursuing?

No-one's been assigned, we thought you wanted to do it

Well I don't have time this week, so if we want it to get done, we need to delegate it like we talked about when we first figured out our priorities

Alex

Well I don't have time this week, so if we want it to get done, we need to delegate it like we talked about when we first figured out our priorities

Ok, we'll figure it out.

new tail thats a little tiny bit smaller

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90 degree bracket

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We changed the acrylic on the left side of the outputter which aligned the servo and seems to take care of the skipping

9:18 PM

Yay!

peteypoo

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We will be doing driving and strategy tonight. Wanted to know who's coming so we can plan

i do not believe that i will be able to come due to weather

If you want a ride, my dad can pick you up and we can bring you home. It’s really up to you

I think I’m going depends on the weather but I should be there

malone

I think I’m going depends on the weather but I should be there

Good, Lucas won’t be able to come, so you can get a lot of arm practice

Zach

We will be doing driving and strategy tonight. Wanted to know who's coming so we can plan

@everyone Could everyone who’s coming mention it here?

Zach

@everyone Could everyone who’s coming mention it here?

I am

I'll be a bit late.